Comments on: The Distinctions Between Natural and Artificial Calendar Systems One Enlightens, The Latter Enslaves http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/ Making Sense of the Human - Planetary Condition: Demystifying the Past, Unraveling the Present & Anticipating the Future Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:26:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rohaan Solare http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-81839 Rohaan Solare Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:34:46 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-81839 Greetings Mark, I couldn't comment on the artificiality (localized cultural realm=human made) or the "organic"(universal realm) constitution of the Hebrew Calendar. One could determine that based on what it is that they mark or give importance to within their calendrical system. By <strong>localized cultural realm</strong> I mean elements that refer to the local socio-political-historical (encultured) realm and by <strong>universal realm</strong> I mean self-existing elements of the natural world outside of the socio-political-historical realm. For example the solstices and equinoxes are self-existing elements of the natural world. It is immediately clear that what you describe smacks of the localized cultural realm. There is nothing universal about "different center", "different soul" or "different heart". The only thing that "interferes" as you say is the inability for a cultural to recognize the limited application of their localized history and perspective. There is nothing universal about localized histories. A universally valid calendrical system applies to anybody, anywhere on the planet regardless of personal or cultural beliefs. What you have briefly described is anything but universal. Greetings Mark, I couldn’t comment on the artificiality (localized cultural realm=human made) or the “organic”(universal realm) constitution of the Hebrew Calendar. One could determine that based on what it is that they mark or give importance to within their calendrical system. By localized cultural realm I mean elements that refer to the local socio-political-historical (encultured) realm and by universal realm I mean self-existing elements of the natural world outside of the socio-political-historical realm.

For example the solstices and equinoxes are self-existing elements of the natural world. It is immediately clear that what you describe smacks of the localized cultural realm. There is nothing universal about “different center”, “different soul” or “different heart”. The only thing that “interferes” as you say is the inability for a cultural to recognize the limited application of their localized history and perspective. There is nothing universal about localized histories. A universally valid calendrical system applies to anybody, anywhere on the planet regardless of personal or cultural beliefs. What you have briefly described is anything but universal.

]]> By: Mark Janssen http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-81712 Mark Janssen Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:12:26 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-81712 There's nothing artificial about the Hebrew calendar. It just orders the soul of the those races derived and centered on that story. The Native races, going back to the Chinese, simply represent a different center, a different SOUL. The implications of this are huge -- these different calendars center on a different heart and travel the *opposite* direction of time. That may sound strange, but that has been the best way to keep two entirely different cosmological histories and destinies from interfering with one another. Write me if you want more detailed info and why this is coming up at this period in civilization's history. Mark Gothenburg, NE There’s nothing artificial about the Hebrew calendar. It just orders the soul of the those races derived and centered on that story. The Native races, going back to the Chinese, simply represent a different center, a different SOUL. The implications of this are huge — these different calendars center on a different heart and travel the *opposite* direction of time.

That may sound strange, but that has been the best way to keep two entirely different cosmological histories and destinies from interfering with one another.

Write me if you want more detailed info and why this is coming up at this period in civilization’s history.

Mark
Gothenburg, NE

]]> By: Emergent Culture – The Art and Science of Synchronicity Investigates 11:11 and 11-11-11 http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-62402 Emergent Culture – The Art and Science of Synchronicity Investigates 11:11 and 11-11-11 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:26:48 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-62402 [...] The Distinction Between Artificial and Natural Calendar Systems One Enlightens, The Latter Enslaves [...] [...] The Distinction Between Artificial and Natural Calendar Systems One Enlightens, The Latter Enslaves [...]

]]> By: keith http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-27989 keith Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:13:40 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-27989 wow !!!! really liked the part about arbitrary control I don't often read past the first few paragraphs however this one I read through and through all your comments ,loved all of it ,am also going to read the other parts when I link to them ... and all I was looking for was a picture of the matrix code to help further a tattoo idea that I have in mind . and research the mayan calender. wow !!!! really liked the part about arbitrary control I don't often read past the first few paragraphs however this one I read through and through all your comments ,loved all of it ,am also going to read the other parts when I link to them … and all I was looking for was a picture of the matrix code to help further a tattoo idea that I have in mind . and research the mayan calender.

]]> By: R. Mark Sink http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-19687 R. Mark Sink Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:10:41 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-19687 Glad that your tackling this as I would hope that if not now, then when could we ever actually learn something about the calendrix you advocate for study. Although, in my research of the Gregorian system and surface features set upon it, I have found that what is there, both astrological and mythical is much older than I suspected, and that much of the essence of construction claimed out of the A.D. arena is insufficient to assume all religious elements as corruptible, especially some of those spoken by the teacher from Nazareth not necessarily tied to the biblical stories. I suspect there are elements in the Gregorian system itself that have made the entire journey through time and may even be associated with the Mayans who seem to have created an older version. Consider the geology of ancient history, this would surely begin to blend over all creation. I don't know much about DM, will need to investigate said author, but I do believe that math does hold the keys and of particular interest are prime numbers and their relation in Arabic form, especially the 7th prime. Keep digging. Glad that your tackling this as I would hope that if not now, then when could we ever actually learn something about the calendrix you advocate for study. Although, in my research of the Gregorian system and surface features set upon it, I have found that what is there, both astrological and mythical is much older than I suspected, and that much of the essence of construction claimed out of the A.D. arena is insufficient to assume all religious elements as corruptible, especially some of those spoken by the teacher from Nazareth not necessarily tied to the biblical stories. I suspect there are elements in the Gregorian system itself that have made the entire journey through time and may even be associated with the Mayans who seem to have created an older version. Consider the geology of ancient history, this would surely begin to blend over all creation.

I don't know much about DM, will need to investigate said author, but I do believe that math does hold the keys and of particular interest are prime numbers and their relation in Arabic form, especially the 7th prime. Keep digging.

]]> By: Dan Drrnt http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-17843 Dan Drrnt Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:01:41 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-17843 well, you've captured MY AttentioN. Time, Emergence, Anticipating, Culture, Higher brain-centers. I kNow Good arguments when I see'em. Mayan Teachings.... Can't say I'm surprised, but I'm glad it's coming back with a fresher cultural beat. Synchromysticism is pretty sexy stuff. well, you've captured MY AttentioN. Time, Emergence, Anticipating, Culture, Higher brain-centers. I kNow Good arguments when I see'em. Mayan Teachings…. Can't say I'm surprised, but I'm glad it's coming back with a fresher cultural beat. Synchromysticism is pretty sexy stuff.

]]> By: Rohaan Solare http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-16656 Rohaan Solare Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:56:46 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-16656 It is not so much as "what more is needed" for the 260 day cycle is a self-existing process inherent in the very fabric of space-time. It just so happens the ancient mesoamericans discovered the 260 day cycle and its attendant properties. My developing treatise on the Science of Synchronicity will articulate and prove the 260 day cycle and reveal the many untold benefits of knowing the thematic content of the future and of the enormous amount of knowledge to be gleaned from a system capable of defining a "social physics." For more in depth information please visit the section on the <a href="http://emergent-culture.com/category/cosmology-calendrics-synchronicity-mayan-calendar-tzolkin/" rel="nofollow">Science of Synchronicity</a> It is not so much as "what more is needed" for the 260 day cycle is a self-existing process inherent in the very fabric of space-time. It just so happens the ancient mesoamericans discovered the 260 day cycle and its attendant properties. My developing treatise on the Science of Synchronicity will articulate and prove the 260 day cycle and reveal the many untold benefits of knowing the thematic content of the future and of the enormous amount of knowledge to be gleaned from a system capable of defining a "social physics." For more in depth information please visit the section on the Science of Synchronicity

]]> By: gregorylent http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-16643 gregorylent Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:22:19 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-16643 what 260-day cycle? and what more is needed than the simple sun and moon, day and night, to keep track of time, if that is a need? what 260-day cycle?

and what more is needed than the simple sun and moon, day and night, to keep track of time, if that is a need?

]]> By: Cari Revolutionary http://emergent-culture.com/why-calendars-matter-the-distinction-between-natural-and-artificial-calendar-systems-enter-the-tzolkin/comment-page-1/#comment-11535 Cari Revolutionary Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:17:50 +0000 http://emergent-culture.com/?p=4628#comment-11535 Excellent read! I try to explain this to people but they usually don't seem to make the connection as to how meaningful it really is. :) Excellent read! I try to explain this to people but they usually don't seem to make the connection as to how meaningful it really is. :)

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