[...]Emergent Culture – THE ART AND SCIENCE OF SYNCHRONICITY: A New Way To See And Experience The World: ARTSOS 1[...]…

“My philosophy” does not dabble in the esoterics of consciousness. The focus of my philosophy is the nature and structure of change. It has nothing to do with “supernatural” occurrences and has everything to do with everyday occurrences. The physics you speak of is useless to explain patterned change at the human scale. Particle and quantum physics has its place in the lab, in technology and makes for good fantasies. From my vantage point your reading comprehension is poor, your comment merely antagonistic and you display little knowledge of Digital Physics/Cellular Automata models, the Holographic paradigm and Bohm’s Implicate Explicate orders. Each of those models posits a code or algorithm, a source code of sorts for the most basic processes of the cosmos.

Processes that aggregate into the reality we inhabit. My studies have convinced me that the Tzolkin cycle code is the code sought by earlier mentioned cosmological models. What you hastily read is merely the introduction to my work on the Art and Science of Synchronicity. And I do have empirical studies to back up what I am saying. Please review A COSMIC PULSE? The Hyper-Day Mega-Phenomena Correlation. And I have more empirical studies on the way. Also please see The Tzolkin Cycle-Code is to Humans as the Genetic code is to Molecules.

Please review your philosophy in light of the fact that consciousness is the product of the laws of physics. You are nothing more than a chemistry set. THERE NEVER HAS BEEN CONCRETE EVIDENCE OF SUPERNATURAL OCCURRENCES.

While I appreciate the effort, I think you are confusing your awe of coincidences and little knowledge of the relativity of simultaneity and quantum tunneling phenomena.

Please review both the BASIS AND HISTORY of modern physics before relying on fantasy to explain natural phenomena.

What i understand you saying is that many people have done and said some very hateful things under the guise of JC.

I agree.

Children have been molested by church leaders

Racism has been supported by pastors.

Ive witnessed women being oppressed and racist comments made.

I read about the crusades, witch hunting, slavery, Hitlers reign, and more.

People rise up in all sorts of hateful manners.

and many do it saying that they do it for God.

I see no support for this in JC.
and I personally know many people passionate about living out an active faith in JC that practice a much more accurate discipline in following the beliefs of JC.
These people are not oppressive, do not rape the lands, they do not seek power or fame or fortune.
I could list hundreds that I personally know and I am sure that there are many more.
there are many books, biographies, web pages and more to display practicing followers of JC who live out a compassionate, merciful, forgiving, graceful, loving, just, gentle, kind and generous life towards others.

The documentation on this is immense and available. One need only look.

JC is a faith that believes that humans are not born perfect.
not many people would claim to be perfect.
JC also makes the claim that its followers/believers (even the most devout) need forgiveness and grace just like everyone else.
SO when they miss the mark of being perfect, they are able to access grace.

When someone brands an entire group of people something because of what some people did…this is called BROAD GENERALIZATION.

Tribes in Africa kill each other based on the idea that one tribe is “bad” because they have a different nose and are a different height.
This is another example of broad generalization…
Broad Generalizations are just another form of prejudice.

Broad Generalizations support intolerance and propel movements of hate crime.

I hear you when you say that people have done and are capable of doing many hurtful things.

I do not agree that every single believer of JC supports the people that you have mentioned complaints about.

You seem well educated and open to seeking a greater understanding, and knowledge.

I highly recommend that you spend some time researching the good things that have come from JC.
Research people that have lived a life that has a more accurate lens to JC.
I also encourage some time researching the beliefs of JC beyond the political layer. Look deeper into the actual beliefs and values. you will likely find many things that you already believe and value.

Thank you again Rohaan!
You have been so kind to have this conversation with me!
I certainly appreciate you and all of your thoughtful replies!

Axel

I agree with much of what you said.

In the past, many people have tortured others, oppressed women and people groups, killed people, raped the land of its beauty and resources, and they have done this while wearing a big JC button pinned to there chest.

But, as I have been stating, and as you stated in your last paragraph in the prior post ; these people do not represent the truths found in the scriptures.

Another way to say it would be to say that they were false representatives.

or perhaps imposters.

one thought is that they are human and did some really stupid things.

my hope is that at some point they figured out how wrong they were and decided to stop such behavior.

some did….some did not.

the point is….anyone can take pieces of teachings and use them to support their own personal agenda.

but one can not do this if they take the entire JC scriptures in their full and proper context.

also… i agree that many churches have clung anxiously to power in government.

while it is important for everyone to exercise their rights in government as voters and officials…

it is not correct to use religion/faith to oppress others and that is not the purpose of JC.

yes, JC believes that it has an accurate access to the truth of God.

no, it does not seek to oppress others because of this.

yes, some people do oppress others and use JC to support this wrong agenda.

no, it is not correctly supported by JC and is actually spoken against in scriptures.

The focus of JC is that we need "Christ" in our lives so that we may be saved from something called original sin. Otherwise we are doomed in the afterlife. If JC were truly tolerant then it would not try to convert others to its point of view. But as you know most denominations of JC have their missionary branches that go where they can to "save people by attempting too convince them that they need Christ in their lives to be saved from "eternal damnation". The Churches thrive by donations, the more believers they have the better off they are. JC ideology has also been described as a slave moral teaching docility and submission to higher human authorities. If the local Warrior-King has the blessing of the Pope then he has been authorized by the person "closest to God" and therefore approved by God via God's representative on earth. Hence the close alliance between the church and state up until the present moment.

The point is that whatever noble and universal truths maybe found in JC literature they have been distorted, ignored, commodified and appropriated for personal or in-group gain.

Thank you for being so open to discuss this with me! I certainly appreciate your replies and am glad to converse with you.

I agree that if someone is to allow themselves to be a true follower of JC that JC commissions them to allow JC to impact every part of them and their lives.

I would think that anything worth believing in would do this though.
Why believe in something if one is not willing to merge their entire being with it?
would it not otherwise simply be the next fad? equal to bell-bottom pants and music genres…

concerning the worldview itself.
I think it would be helpful if you defined in somewhat simple terms what you believe the JC worldview is.

this may better help me understand.

Also, I find it difficult to agree that JC is intolerant to other worldviews. Some people that assume JC identity have displayed much bigotry and hatred towards others with different views. but this is not the example taught from JC.

JC teaches to love others, especially if they believe something different.

JC teaches that one can believe different things and still get along.

some differing worldviews teach that people can not get along if they believe different things so they often choose one of two paths:

1)they decide they must hate others that believe differently

2) they decide that they must not believe in anything that could be controversial or could stir argument. they simply file those ideas under danger.

the curious thing about this is that JC teaches us to respect others no matter their belief.

how else could it lead to people having compassion on those that were trying to kill them?

read the stories of the prophets that would keep trying to help others even though the people were trying to stone them to death like the prophets that came before them.

also note the disciple that came after Jesus Christ. they displayed compassion on the people that had killed their fellow believers even up to death. some were sawed in half while speaking forgiveness to the very ones sawing them. some were crucified on crosses and again spoke of forgiveness not hate.

how can people having compassion of this magnitude be called intolerant?
they showed more tolerance than the world has ever seen.
they believed something very different from their persecutors and yet behaved in a manner that displayed only love and respect.

I must note that much of what I hear others say about JC has come from what we see in the media.

we see loud people on tv behaving in ugly ways while wearing the hat of JC.
but to this we must note that the media focuses on those with the loudest act.
the media often ignores the genuine for the purpose of ratings, knowing that sensationalism is more popular than reality.

while many people have done and said horrible things while while wearing a JC tshirt. I can honestly say that they do not bare a proper representation of JC.
they are simply the loudest act.

thank you again Rohaan for this conversation.

I really enjoy talking with others who are passionate and thoughtful and you certainly display this in your writings.

In answer to your last point

Perhaps the culture you are calling into question is not so much judeo christian but rather simply western.

. JC is a cultural worldview that imbues every aspect of life for those part of it. Everything we call Western emerges from the foundational matrix of ideas put forth by its mother culture. JC happens to be the mother culture of what is now known as the West. The Classical Western worldview of JC began fragmenting with birth of the empirically based worldview called science. Fast forward 500 years since the birth of the scientific revolution and we know have an amalgam of worldviews in the west but the dominant world view meaning the most popularly held worldview is largely JC in nature. I like to say that we live in the age of confusion since we find ourselves transitioning from regional ideologies to holistic cosmologies.

thank you for your reply!

concerning mistakes that some from the mayan culture made you said this:

"Possessing a great knowledge is no insurance against the abuse of power nor does it guarantee expertise in another area. Slash and burn agriculture has its limits as they found out. The ruling elites are never in harmony with nature so to speak"

I agree with this statement. It shows wisdom in understanding that we do not need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I am curious though. Why would you not apply this to Judeo Christian culture as well. I agree that many abusive people rose into power and tried to wear the judeo christian tshirt. But One could argue that they were mis-representing that faith.

If you study the life of Jesus you would agree that he acted quite differently and that he rebuked those that used physical force to rise to power. In fact, he instructed his disciples to serve others instead and to love there enemies.

Also, the ideals that jesus taught were very counter-cultural to his time and to ours. they are very contrast to western thought. He just happened to be living in a time that propelled toward western culture.

but, like the mayans, proximity does not negate the origin of knowledge.

Perhaps the culture you are calling into question is not so much judeo christian but rather simply western.