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		<title>By: sally dobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally dobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Any perceived ideas or conceptions of people-helping, preaching, dictating or any other type of potentially intrusive behaviour are a long, long way from the actual facts of the Warmich Mission Statement. People help themselves to ‘whatever’, whenever they want to,..............but, only if and when they can!  
The welcomed responses that we have received over the many years of developmental growth have been few and far between, but it was the lack of enthusiasm and passion that fuelled the development and discovery process.
Please keep in mind that while there is willful harm to life associated with organized human activities, such as war, chemicals and conflicting Cultures, there shall be no true sustainable peace or happiness. 
It appears that the so called ‘Judgment Day’ has arrived. Multiplying life in non-expandable environment means change without consent! We actually are facing limited end-time life-options. We either allow people to be put down or executed without their consent or we change our foolish and destructive ways.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Reader,</p>
<p>2012 is shaping up as an extraordinary year for Humanity, with great changes to our socioeconomic and environmental infrastructure systems, including major population consumption adjustments and environmental issues.<br />
The W-doc ENTHUSIASM file attached to this message seriously relates to best known psychology policies and diversely well-informed practical procedures for individuals and populations to safely negotiate most local and world events which convey mental and/or physical harm to human life.<br />
By no means, does this mail-package or its messengers include intent to trigger or induce any form of distress with recipients. The sole intent of this communication is to offer recipients a naturally simple universal intention reform-catalyst which can be used as a means to any end.<br />
To those who have received previous deliveries of ENTHUSIASM’s evolving developments and those who are witnessing it for the first time, the main purpose of its existence has always been focused on being available when needed, (without any restrictions).<br />
Any perceived ideas or conceptions of people-helping, preaching, dictating or any other type of potentially intrusive behaviour are a long, long way from the actual facts of the Warmich Mission Statement. People help themselves to ‘whatever’, whenever they want to,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..but, only if and when they can!<br />
The welcomed responses that we have received over the many years of developmental growth have been few and far between, but it was the lack of enthusiasm and passion that fuelled the development and discovery process.<br />
Please keep in mind that while there is willful harm to life associated with organized human activities, such as war, chemicals and conflicting Cultures, there shall be no true sustainable peace or happiness.<br />
It appears that the so called ‘Judgment Day’ has arrived. Multiplying life in non-expandable environment means change without consent! We actually are facing limited end-time life-options. We either allow people to be put down or executed without their consent or we change our foolish and destructive ways.<br />
The most objectively logical and naturally universal share-at-will idea for sustainable natural change is now in your email attachment box!<br />
WMS Julia Ramsay warmich-australia<br />
ENTHUSIASM!    </p>
<p>GLOBAL GROUND-ZERO SELF-INITIATING<br />
CENSUS OF CITIZEN INTENT 2012</p>
<p> CITIZENRY FREEDOM INCLUSIVENESS.<br />
 LEAVING THE CORPORATE DEATH QUEUE.<br />
 IGNITING SOCIAL /ECONOMIC EQUALITY.<br />
 STOPPING THE ROT CATALYST PROGRAM.<br />
 Attached Activating File:<br />
‘SOCIETIES REFORMED’- 22.12.2012<br />
Sally Dobson &#8230;.warmich-australia<br />
warmich28..bigpond.com</p>
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		<title>By: JöshIë</title>
		<link>http://emergent-culture.com/the-mayan-calendar-and-dec-21-2012-the-facts-the-fiction-and-the-marvels-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-41913</link>
		<dc:creator>JöshIë</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t know what to believe. When Frank Drake and Carl Sagan send a binary code in 1974 using the radio telescope that was dirrected to Hercule&#039;s cluster constelation. the unbelievable began the aliens started to communicate using the crop field&#039;s now that&#039;s really unbelievable and some of the crop circles have the similar drawings to the Mayan people. I Believe today aliens warns us The Apocalipse or and epic re-awekening will began. The time when Place and Time Colide together. When All the planets allign together to form a line.When december 21 2012 comes Well will be ready.



i just wanna gather some more inf.
my facebook is lovepapa012@yahoo.com / lovepapa014@yahoo.com
i suggest adding me in 014 will be the best!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know what to believe. When Frank Drake and Carl Sagan send a binary code in 1974 using the radio telescope that was dirrected to Hercule&#8217;s cluster constelation. the unbelievable began the aliens started to communicate using the crop field&#8217;s now that&#8217;s really unbelievable and some of the crop circles have the similar drawings to the Mayan people. I Believe today aliens warns us The Apocalipse or and epic re-awekening will began. The time when Place and Time Colide together. When All the planets allign together to form a line.When december 21 2012 comes Well will be ready.</p>
<p>i just wanna gather some more inf.<br />
my facebook is <a href="mailto:lovepapa012@yahoo.com">lovepapa012@yahoo.com</a> / <a href="mailto:lovepapa014@yahoo.com">lovepapa014@yahoo.com</a><br />
i suggest adding me in 014 will be the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Rohaan Solare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohaan Solare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No apologies necessary. I do not mind being critiqued as it helps me sharpen my machete. ]]></description>
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		<title>By: Rohaan Solare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohaan Solare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Olmec Culture
Research concurs with what you say about Olmec import to Meso-American culture and calendrics.
I will add that there is no question in my mind about the African origins of Olmec Culture and there is no question about Asian and Polynesian influence in the Americas as well. In Copan, Honduras I noticed that the statues looked exactly like Japanese Samurai---attire and facial features. And the Asiatic features of North, Meso and South Americans is also unmistakable. Genetic tests have confirmed the ethnic origins all Native Americans.

Re: Prophecy
My point regarding prophecy is that we do not have anything in writing to substantiate claims of prophecy. Books have been written about the subject yet there is not a shred of text or glyph inscribed anywhere that we may construe as prophetic text as it relates to 2012 or any other time. Please see &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/6Zo2Nm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prophecy Demystified: The Non-Existent “Mayan Prophecies”and the Real Meaning of Prophecy”&lt;/a&gt; for details.   It would be speculation to say what the Maya foresaw. Since we do not have any evidence to that effect.  

Maya civilizational collapse was likely brought about the sheer force of self-organizing criticality. All systems are subject to it. And it simply means that any system by virtue of sheer growth will reach points where they become unstable and then must reorganize at either at a more complex scale of organization or at a simpler scale of organization.  By many indications it seems that the Maya civilizational model maximized its potential and thus began a period of decline (reorganization) into simplification. 

Re: Eurocentric
I am not sure why you say Eurocentric because if you are familiar with my writings you would know that I am quite critical of Euro-American cultural smugness.
I have no doubt that a present day Maya day keeper would be adept at articulating the Tzolkin according to his or her understanding.  It would be sheer prejudice to say though that &quot;nobody would be better predisposed to deliberate&quot; on the Tzolkin than a Maya.   That is like saying that an American electrical engineer would be better at articulating and understanding electrical theory  because Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Edison were Americans. 

Re: Product and producer.
To say &quot;product and producers&quot; is to misunderstand what the Tzolkin is. The Tzolkin is not a product (invention), but rather the discovery of a natural phenomena such as electricity. As a natural phenomena the only thing that maybe rightfully claimed is who discovered it and what the discovers had to say about it. But that by no means says that they have the final word.  

I consider my work to be groundbreaking and I am only blowing some of the dust off the surface. I will devote my entire life to reveal what I can about the Tzolkin and its implications/applications and I will have only scratched the surface.   I have given credit were is credit is due. I refer to their work as the Maya-Meso-American Calendrical System. The Universe is open source is it not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Olmec Culture<br />
Research concurs with what you say about Olmec import to Meso-American culture and calendrics.<br />
I will add that there is no question in my mind about the African origins of Olmec Culture and there is no question about Asian and Polynesian influence in the Americas as well. In Copan, Honduras I noticed that the statues looked exactly like Japanese Samurai&#8212;attire and facial features. And the Asiatic features of North, Meso and South Americans is also unmistakable. Genetic tests have confirmed the ethnic origins all Native Americans.</p>
<p>Re: Prophecy<br />
My point regarding prophecy is that we do not have anything in writing to substantiate claims of prophecy. Books have been written about the subject yet there is not a shred of text or glyph inscribed anywhere that we may construe as prophetic text as it relates to 2012 or any other time. Please see <a href="http://bit.ly/6Zo2Nm" rel="nofollow">Prophecy Demystified: The Non-Existent “Mayan Prophecies”and the Real Meaning of Prophecy”</a> for details.   It would be speculation to say what the Maya foresaw. Since we do not have any evidence to that effect.  </p>
<p>Maya civilizational collapse was likely brought about the sheer force of self-organizing criticality. All systems are subject to it. And it simply means that any system by virtue of sheer growth will reach points where they become unstable and then must reorganize at either at a more complex scale of organization or at a simpler scale of organization.  By many indications it seems that the Maya civilizational model maximized its potential and thus began a period of decline (reorganization) into simplification. </p>
<p>Re: Eurocentric<br />
I am not sure why you say Eurocentric because if you are familiar with my writings you would know that I am quite critical of Euro-American cultural smugness.<br />
I have no doubt that a present day Maya day keeper would be adept at articulating the Tzolkin according to his or her understanding.  It would be sheer prejudice to say though that &#8220;nobody would be better predisposed to deliberate&#8221; on the Tzolkin than a Maya.   That is like saying that an American electrical engineer would be better at articulating and understanding electrical theory  because Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Edison were Americans. </p>
<p>Re: Product and producer.<br />
To say &#8220;product and producers&#8221; is to misunderstand what the Tzolkin is. The Tzolkin is not a product (invention), but rather the discovery of a natural phenomena such as electricity. As a natural phenomena the only thing that maybe rightfully claimed is who discovered it and what the discovers had to say about it. But that by no means says that they have the final word.  </p>
<p>I consider my work to be groundbreaking and I am only blowing some of the dust off the surface. I will devote my entire life to reveal what I can about the Tzolkin and its implications/applications and I will have only scratched the surface.   I have given credit were is credit is due. I refer to their work as the Maya-Meso-American Calendrical System. The Universe is open source is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Obsidian Eagle</title>
		<link>http://emergent-culture.com/the-mayan-calendar-and-dec-21-2012-the-facts-the-fiction-and-the-marvels-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-27333</link>
		<dc:creator>Obsidian Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rohaan, 
 
My apologies, I did not mean to come off so pedantic.  As in the case of poetry, I am only playing devil&#039;s advocate here by letting you know that there is still an active body of Mesoamericans involved with calendrics.  Having been acculturated in Latin-America, I can&#039;t help thinking that certain aspects of Mayan prophecy are intuitively self-evident and require little in the way of substantive proof.  Other than that, I am a beaming fan of your work and am actually very interested in learning more about your discoveries because they definitely do sound groundbreaking.  I look forward to the second part of Down the Rabbit Holographic! 
 
- ItzQuauhtli ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohaan,</p>
<p>My apologies, I did not mean to come off so pedantic.  As in the case of poetry, I am only playing devil&#039;s advocate here by letting you know that there is still an active body of Mesoamericans involved with calendrics.  Having been acculturated in Latin-America, I can&#039;t help thinking that certain aspects of Mayan prophecy are intuitively self-evident and require little in the way of substantive proof.  Other than that, I am a beaming fan of your work and am actually very interested in learning more about your discoveries because they definitely do sound groundbreaking.  I look forward to the second part of Down the Rabbit Holographic!</p>
<p>- ItzQuauhtli </p>
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		<title>By: Obsidian Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obsidian Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rohaan,

This is a follow-up to our previous conversations and in it I will address not only this article but several other related ones that I have read on your site.

Honestly, I like most of what you&#039;re saying here.  I completely agree that there is no need to hype up an &#039;end of the world&#039; since we are already in a state of crisis and that the rest is a sensationalist ruse to distract us from the issues at hand.

However, there is one major matter on which I must diverge: the non-existence of Mayan prophecy.  As I have previously related, most ancient Mayan literature was burned by an ignoramus Catholic priest.  Nevertheless, the oral tradition carried on in various ancestral dialects continues unimpeded to this very day so can I assure you that the Maya are alive and well, having much to say concerning their own &quot;professions of faith&quot;.  For example, the &#039;decline&#039; of city-dwelling Maya and the abandonment of key urban centers has long baffled Western scholars.  But you better than anyone should be able to understand that the Maya foresaw the arrival of conquerors and that they voluntarily went into hiding deep in the jungles and high in the mountains of the Yucatan centuries before Europeans arrived.  They have remained there in relative seclusion (barring of course, certain public scuffles like the widely publicized Zapatista uprising of the mid-90&#039;s) up to the present.  

As I understand it you are familiar with the prophecy of 13 Heavens and Nine Hells but could not track its source.  This is a common prophecy known all throughout Latin America even by common folk.  In Spanish it is called &quot;The long night of 500 years&quot; because it basically states that our people would be subjugated by foreign invaders for such a span as to atone for the sins of our bloodthirsty forebears.  In other words, we have been patiently biding our time and continue to do so until conditions are ripe to reassert our ascendancy as true Toltec descendants.  More recently, the Mayan elders have started to come forward to reveal wisdom normally withheld from those who would corrupt or destroy it.

Toltec in Nahuatl basically means &quot;Artisan&quot; and the factuality of their existence as a civilization is also hotly debated within academic circles.  Insofar as the Olmecs and the long-count are concerned, a leading scholar says:

&quot;The Long Count calendar used by many subsequent Mesoamerican civilizations, as well as the concept of zero, may have been devised by the Olmecs. Because the six artifacts with the earliest Long Count calendar dates were all discovered outside the immediate Maya homeland, it is likely that this calendar predated the Maya and was possibly the invention of the Olmecs. Indeed, three of these six artifacts were found within the Olmec heartland. But an argument against an Olmec origin is the fact that the Olmec civilization had ended by the 4th century BCE, several centuries before the earliest known Long Count date artifact.&quot; Diehl, Richard (2004). The Olmecs: America&#039;s First Civilization. Ancient peoples and places series.

In either case, it matters not, the Olmecs were obviously &quot;Artisans&quot; of the highest order.  I have also noticed that they dwelt not far from the Eastern coast.  The elders say that the Toltecs themselves were descended from Atlantis (after all, Atl means &quot;water&quot; in Nahuatl).  There are some by the wayside theorists who have put forward that much of the ancient world was populated by a sea-faring people that predates known records but who left behind many stone monuments that accurately marked the equinoxes and solstices.  Thus, we Mesoamericans emphatically reject the Bering Strait theory of our origins.  Actually, I really think you should take a look at these videos because they raise a lot of interesting questions pertaining to that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU557btZRg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNBA9YEMAg

Basically, what I am getting at, is that nobody is better predisposed to understand or deliberate on the Tzolkin than the people who developed and refined it (heck, this isn&#039;t even the only calendar still being utilized).  For all your wisdom my friend (and it is genuine wisdom), I am sad to say that your approach strikes me as typically Eurocentric - divorcing the product from its producers.  But if you believe in the Archaic Revival as I do then you should accept that when everything comes around full circle, it is the most primitivistic cultures that will have to be consulted for their timeless insights.  When I say that I believe in Quetzalcoatl&#039;s return, that is undoubtedly me professing personal a faith (just as Christians profess faith in Jesus&#039; return).  Although there is one important difference: I do not take that prophecy at its literal, face-value either.  The Feathered Serpent of Toltec myth represents (among other things) the union of the primeval reptilian mindset with an ethereal spirituality.  We will see this happen within our lifetime and I hope we can work together to spread such awareness.

- ItzQuauhtli, Herald of Quetzalcoatl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohaan,</p>
<p>This is a follow-up to our previous conversations and in it I will address not only this article but several other related ones that I have read on your site.</p>
<p>Honestly, I like most of what you&#8217;re saying here.  I completely agree that there is no need to hype up an &#8216;end of the world&#8217; since we are already in a state of crisis and that the rest is a sensationalist ruse to distract us from the issues at hand.</p>
<p>However, there is one major matter on which I must diverge: the non-existence of Mayan prophecy.  As I have previously related, most ancient Mayan literature was burned by an ignoramus Catholic priest.  Nevertheless, the oral tradition carried on in various ancestral dialects continues unimpeded to this very day so can I assure you that the Maya are alive and well, having much to say concerning their own &#8220;professions of faith&#8221;.  For example, the &#8216;decline&#8217; of city-dwelling Maya and the abandonment of key urban centers has long baffled Western scholars.  But you better than anyone should be able to understand that the Maya foresaw the arrival of conquerors and that they voluntarily went into hiding deep in the jungles and high in the mountains of the Yucatan centuries before Europeans arrived.  They have remained there in relative seclusion (barring of course, certain public scuffles like the widely publicized Zapatista uprising of the mid-90&#8242;s) up to the present.  </p>
<p>As I understand it you are familiar with the prophecy of 13 Heavens and Nine Hells but could not track its source.  This is a common prophecy known all throughout Latin America even by common folk.  In Spanish it is called &#8220;The long night of 500 years&#8221; because it basically states that our people would be subjugated by foreign invaders for such a span as to atone for the sins of our bloodthirsty forebears.  In other words, we have been patiently biding our time and continue to do so until conditions are ripe to reassert our ascendancy as true Toltec descendants.  More recently, the Mayan elders have started to come forward to reveal wisdom normally withheld from those who would corrupt or destroy it.</p>
<p>Toltec in Nahuatl basically means &#8220;Artisan&#8221; and the factuality of their existence as a civilization is also hotly debated within academic circles.  Insofar as the Olmecs and the long-count are concerned, a leading scholar says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Long Count calendar used by many subsequent Mesoamerican civilizations, as well as the concept of zero, may have been devised by the Olmecs. Because the six artifacts with the earliest Long Count calendar dates were all discovered outside the immediate Maya homeland, it is likely that this calendar predated the Maya and was possibly the invention of the Olmecs. Indeed, three of these six artifacts were found within the Olmec heartland. But an argument against an Olmec origin is the fact that the Olmec civilization had ended by the 4th century BCE, several centuries before the earliest known Long Count date artifact.&#8221; Diehl, Richard (2004). The Olmecs: America&#8217;s First Civilization. Ancient peoples and places series.</p>
<p>In either case, it matters not, the Olmecs were obviously &#8220;Artisans&#8221; of the highest order.  I have also noticed that they dwelt not far from the Eastern coast.  The elders say that the Toltecs themselves were descended from Atlantis (after all, Atl means &#8220;water&#8221; in Nahuatl).  There are some by the wayside theorists who have put forward that much of the ancient world was populated by a sea-faring people that predates known records but who left behind many stone monuments that accurately marked the equinoxes and solstices.  Thus, we Mesoamericans emphatically reject the Bering Strait theory of our origins.  Actually, I really think you should take a look at these videos because they raise a lot of interesting questions pertaining to that:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU557btZRg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU557btZRg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNBA9YEMAg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNBA9YEMAg</a></p>
<p>Basically, what I am getting at, is that nobody is better predisposed to understand or deliberate on the Tzolkin than the people who developed and refined it (heck, this isn&#8217;t even the only calendar still being utilized).  For all your wisdom my friend (and it is genuine wisdom), I am sad to say that your approach strikes me as typically Eurocentric &#8211; divorcing the product from its producers.  But if you believe in the Archaic Revival as I do then you should accept that when everything comes around full circle, it is the most primitivistic cultures that will have to be consulted for their timeless insights.  When I say that I believe in Quetzalcoatl&#8217;s return, that is undoubtedly me professing personal a faith (just as Christians profess faith in Jesus&#8217; return).  Although there is one important difference: I do not take that prophecy at its literal, face-value either.  The Feathered Serpent of Toltec myth represents (among other things) the union of the primeval reptilian mindset with an ethereal spirituality.  We will see this happen within our lifetime and I hope we can work together to spread such awareness.</p>
<p>- ItzQuauhtli, Herald of Quetzalcoatl</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for putting this out so clearly.  I&#039;ve read other sites and just got confused.  This explains things so well, glad I found you.  Looking forward to more.x ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this out so clearly.  I&#039;ve read other sites and just got confused.  This explains things so well, glad I found you.  Looking forward to more.x </p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the first clear understanding I have had of the basis for your theories. 
I look forward to further primers. Thanks ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first clear understanding I have had of the basis for your theories.</p>
<p>I look forward to further primers. Thanks </p>
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		<title>By: Rohaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Susan, 
I wish I could it view as &quot;fun&quot;. I see oceans of confusion. I just put out my first article on mythic deconstruction using the Biblical myth of the Fall of Man. You might have viewed my deconstruction of prophecy which is of course rooted in myth.   Ancient symbolism and modern literalism is a volatile concoction and then throw in the 12 blind men feeling out the elephant and you have a full blown circus.   
 
The 12 blind men are the popularizers with no understanding of mytho-symbolism. The elephant is the Mayan calendar and the 2012 event.  I don&#039;t presume to know how this is all going to shape up, but I can least keep my head above water or so I like to think. The positivist crowd has got it right thematically--a regenerative event. The looming question is one of scale and magnitude. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Susan,</p>
<p>I wish I could it view as &quot;fun&quot;. I see oceans of confusion. I just put out my first article on mythic deconstruction using the Biblical myth of the Fall of Man. You might have viewed my deconstruction of prophecy which is of course rooted in myth.   Ancient symbolism and modern literalism is a volatile concoction and then throw in the 12 blind men feeling out the elephant and you have a full blown circus.  </p>
<p>The 12 blind men are the popularizers with no understanding of mytho-symbolism. The elephant is the Mayan calendar and the 2012 event.  I don&#039;t presume to know how this is all going to shape up, but I can least keep my head above water or so I like to think. The positivist crowd has got it right thematically&#8211;a regenerative event. The looming question is one of scale and magnitude. </p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Rohaan, 
I agree with you that there is a lot of misinformation out there about MY2K.  But, actually, I think that makes it even more fun - our modern &#039;myths&#039; will be as important in this as the Maya myths.  Fascinating, isn&#039;t it? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rohaan,</p>
<p>I agree with you that there is a lot of misinformation out there about MY2K.  But, actually, I think that makes it even more fun &#8211; our modern &#039;myths&#039; will be as important in this as the Maya myths.  Fascinating, isn&#039;t it? </p>
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