Emergent Culture

The Mayan Calendar and December 21, 2012: The Facts, The Fiction And The Marvels

Mythic & Scientific Investigations into the Nature of Reality & its Recurrent Themes

Origins of the 2012 Mythos

red dragon green backgroundOn the 16th and 17th of August 1987 an unprecedented event took place around the world. For the first time in humanity’s history a ritual event of global proportions occurred. Thousands around the world gathered at places of reverence to usher in the “dawning of a new era” on planet Earth.

The event, known as the“Harmonic Convergence”, was organized by the man responsible for introducing the world to the arcane knowledge of Maya calendrics (Mayan Calendar) and the year 2012–Dr. José Argüelles [1]

In 1987 Argüelles burst onto the world scene with the simultaneous release of his groundbreaking book The Mayan Factor: Path Beyond Technology and his call to recognize the “Harmonic Convergence.”

But almost as quickly as he emerged, Argüelles receded into virtual obscurity. He wrapped his interpretation of Maya calendrics and 2012 in a kind of language and context that would bring him mainstream rejection and widespread misunderstanding. Less than 2 years until the fabled date of Dec. 21, 2012 and his presentation of Maya calendrics languishes on the fringes of society and is derided by traditionalist schools of Mesoamerican calendrics. [1]

Nevertheless, it was Argüelles who kick-started the popular imagination surrounding 2012 with proclamations of a fast approaching “golden age.”

His interpretation of 2012 created a cottage industry of writers, websites and now film makers who have run wild with “prophecies” of cataclysmic scenarios and the birth of utopian societies in the blink of an eye.

Argüelles himself did not speak of physical catastrophes and the only “prophecy” mentioned by Arguelles pertains to a two-line phrase attributed to the Zapotec nation of pre-colonial Mexico known as the “Prophecy Cycle of the 13 Heavens and 9 Hells.” [1]

The “prophecy” itself does not refer to 2012, but rather to a time period spanning 1144 years. Argüelles pegs the ending of the prophecy cycle to the “Harmonic Convergence” event.

The idea of prophecy is a controversial, mystical and largely unfounded concept. I do not accept the commonly held notion of prophecy as the prediction of future events. The original meaning of prophecy has been corrupted and there is a great deal of confusion and misunderstanding surrounding it. [2]

#2 Calendar Glyphs IMG 2

The 20 Day signs of the Maya Calendar

My study of Maya calendrics (MC) has enabled me to understand why MC is regarded by the Maya as some sort of divinitory or forecasting device.

For now I will say that Maya calendrics is indeed capable of functioning as such, but we must substitute the “prediction of specific events” with the “prediction of thematic content.” More on this further down.

Every assertion made by Argüelles in The Mayan Factor regarding 2012 is his interpretation of a two-line “prophecy” phrase and his assessment of the human and planetary condition.

Argüelles is certain that the meaning of 2012 is the demise of a world governed by subjugation and the birth of a new world based on cooperation toward the common good. [1]


How Much is True?

At the present moment and in the English speaking world Argüelles is the most enigmatic among the more popular Maya calendrical and 2012 phenomena researchers. His supra-mystical presentation of Maya calendrics and his many failed predictions has led to his loss of credibility as a reputable researcher.

But his failure as prophet does not mean he is wrong about his interpretation of Maya calendrics nor his assessment of the likeliest meaning behind Dec. 21, 2012, the day the Maya Long Count cycle of 5125.26 years ends and restarts.

Two other well known Independent researchers on the subject of Maya Calendrics and 2012 come to mind. They are John Major Jenkins, and Carl Johan Calleman,

I regard Jenkins as the leading authority on the archeological and astronomical correlations of 2012.[3]

Further down I there is another image showing our suns relationship to the galactic equator.

On the matter of Maya calendrics and its astronomical correlations, Jenkins does add significant substance and volume to the subject of Mesoamerican calendrics in general.[4]

With regard to the core of Maya calendrics, the 260 day Tzolkin cycle, Jenkin’s has yet to add significantly to the conversation of just what the Tzolkin is. That is beyond the Tzolkin cycle’s correlations with planetary orbits, ellipse cycles, the human gestation cycle and alike.[5]

Calleman’s focus has been to explain evolution in terms of large-scale time periods as defined by his understanding of Maya calendrics. Calleman does seem to be on to something with his interpretation of present moment time periods he describes as the “nights and days of the underworld”.[6]

On the matter of the Tzolkin, Calleman has less to say than Jenkins. Calleman does throw a wrench in the 2012 works by asserting that the Long Count cycle ends one year earlier than the more widely accepted Dec. 21, 2012.[7]

With regard to the many catastrophic claims espoused by other self-styled researchers, there is simply no evidence to substantiate impending magnetic reversals, killer solar flares, crustal displacements, super volcano eruptions or Planet X/Niburu intrusions into our solar system.


What More Catastrophe Do We Need?

As I see it, the catastrophe is upon us and it’s called Western civilization gasping for air as it strives to maintain the status quo at all costs.

If 2012 is meaningful, it is because a global humanity stands at a crossroads of unprecedented magnitude. Clearly we are in a global predicament of sorts and we don’t need a calendrical system to tell us that. But is it mere happenstance that the end of the Maya Long Count cycle coincides with humanity’s precarious situation? After all, the Maya left not a single inscription anywhere indicating any of the conditions that could accompany 2012. That’s right, not a single Maya “prophecy” exists. [2

#4 Conclusion of Long Count cycle mythographically expressed in a wall mural IMG 4

The only ancient description we have of Dec. 21, 2012 is a Maya mural depicting in symbolic terms the astronomical significance of the Sun’s conjunction with the approximate galactic center. [2]

According to John Major Jenkins, the conjunction is unequivocally depicted as a “birthing event”: The birth of a new Maya precessional age of 25,626.28 years, or 5 Long Count cycles of 5125.26 years. And that’s it. There are no other inscriptions or murals that we might interpret as the foretelling of events to accompany the arrival of 2012.[2]


Mythic Illiteracy

The situation of a prophecy circus without the existence of a single “Mayan prophecy” reveals the monumental ignorance confounding Western culture to the point of lunacy and complicating all manner of social and ideological coherence. We have become mythic illiterates.

We no longer speak the language our species has spoken for over 99 percent of its history as a communicator of symbols and imagery to convey meaning and knowledge. Therein lies the mystery of the West’s mass confusion over the meaning of its own mythic heritage as defined by Judeo-Christian lore and symbolism.

In order to know if the coincidence of Long Count cycle closure with humanity’s predicament is more than happenstance, we must then investigate the claims that Maya calendrics is some sort of a predictive device.And in order to do that we must first decode the hidden meaning locked away in the symbols, numbers and features composing the heart of Maya calendrics–the Tzolkin.[13]


The Argüellen Factor

Argüelles is the only researcher thus far to attempt a multi-layered decoding and investigation of the Tzolkin. He assigned specific attributes or characteristics to each symbol and feature of the Tzolkin. He also discovered numerical and color coded relationships between the symbols and thus created a system’s architecture for what I call Tzolkin cosmology.

#5 The Tzolkin Code mytho-symbolically rendered IMG 5

Cosmic Calendar Cosmology in Symbolic Format

My own interest in Maya calendrics and the possible meaning of 2012 started with the publication of The Mayan Factor. What Argüelles was saying about Maya calendrics at the time was unintelligible to my 21 year old mind.

My own assessment of the human and planetary condition had led me to conclude that humanity’s socio-economic operations were unsustainable, unmerciful and that a global crisis point was inevitable. Our economic system is built upon unlimited growth precepts and with no regard for their socio-ecological impact.

Unlimited and unjust growth precepts will ultimately have to confront the reality of a finite planet and a disgruntled population.

My question at the time was, Are we that close to the crisis point (2012)?

I made it a point to stay atop Argüelles’ work while continuing my own investigations into how the human-planetary condition came to be what it is.

I reasoned that if we could understand the source of Western civilization’s dysfunctions we could then begin to address the root source of humanity’s problems versus the symptoms.


Random Development or Systematic Evolution?

One of the most vexing questions of my life had been… is human social reality a haphazard process driven by chance, or was the unfoldment of humanity an organized and systematic process exhibiting the properties of some super-organism?

During the ’70s, scientists James Lovelock and Lynn Margulis put forth the theory of planet Earth as a self-regulating super organism.[8]

If the planet is a super-organism, then what role does humanity play as a sub-system of the super system we call Earth?

It is now glaringly clear that humanity has a big part to play in the future of our planet’s evolution. Unlike other species, humanity seems to be out of synch with the ecology of the planet.

The human species seems to have become an infection that is about to overwhelm its host, yet clearly we have the ability to course correct from our perilous path because we can see first hand the short and long-term consequences of our actions.

But all indications point to a stubborn leadership establishment that is indifferent to the plight of the Earth and its inhabitants great and small. A self-absorbed establishment with a vision for the planet all their own.[12]


Red Crystal Earth?

It was mid-1999 and I had come to the conclusion that some answers to my questions about humanity as a self-organizing super organism might be answered by the Argüellen interpretation of Maya calendrics. Up until that time I had been reluctant to study his newer work on the Tzolkin because it sounded too cultish and new agey for my tastes.

I have never been one to accept unsubstantiated claims and the New Age community is full of self-proclaimed prophets making every claim without any solid evidence or compelling argument. Argüelles’ assertions about 2012 and Maya calendrics followed the same New Age formula, but there was something egging me on to investigate. And so I began by learning the Tzolkin according the Argüellen interpretation.


Another New Age Astrology System or Something Deeper?

The key claim made by traditional and newer schools of thought on Maya calendrics is that each day possesses unique qualities that repeat every 20 days.In all the Tzolkin is a 260 day cycle composed of 3 sub-cycles.

Without getting into technicalities, the 20 days are assigned symbols representing themes.The theme-symbols exemplify the predominant characteristics and qualities to be expected on a given day.

The20-day theme-cycle is factored by what I call the 13 day frequency-intensity cycle to yield 260 variations on the 20 themes.

The implication of natural phenomena governed by cycles inherent in nature is nothing less than one of the greatest natural history discoveries of all time and then consider that the Tzolkin cycles were discovered over 3000 years ago!


On the Trail of the Super Organism

Testing the Tzolkin meant tracking it day by day to see if I could correlate the assigned attributes of the day with the events and overall quality of the day. To complicate matters, we all know that the day’s events are varied and can sometimes run across several themes.

Theme Complex Cropped

Tzolkin cosmology factors for that in that the central theme of the day is accompanied by 5 cofactors, designated as either synergistic, frictional, quasi, guiding and frequency-intensity.

In all there are 6 primary theme-elements and at least 3 secondary theme-elements involved in the constitution of the day’s events and overall quality.


Multiply the 9 theme-elements by the 3 primary attributes assigned to each one and you have 27 attributes assigned to the day’s events and overall “vibe”. As such there are at least 7020 unique combinations of attributes over the length of the 260 day cycle.

I had my work cut out for me and it was not like Argüelles provided any useful instructions to go with his theory. He simply puts forth his work as a decree and without any evidence to support his many claims.

Fast forward to the present and I have tracked over 3600 days and employed other methodologies atop other related research to confidently assert that the Tzolkin Code is a mapping of cycles and properties inherent in the very fabric of space-time itself.


How can that be?

Once I was convinced of the Tzolkin’s ability topredict the thematic contentof a given day and that it could also accurately describe personalities and the quality of relationships between personalities, it then occurred to me that any system capable of predicting such things must by logical necessity be reflected at every scale of theenergy-matter continuum (EMC).

I reasoned that the numbers and features comprising the Tzolkin must be evident at every scale of the EMC. And indeed that is what I found. Please see the Table of Nested Numerical Equivalences Across the Entire Energy-Matter Continuum for details.[9]

 

#8 Golden Mean, Fractality, Recursion and Nestedness are captured by Tzolkin Dynamics and are synonyms for Recurrent Themes

The implication of nested numerical equivalences across the entire EMC means that one should be able to find correlations of Tzolkin features in chemistry, the genetic code and in the various physics theories.

Parts 2 and 5 of The Art and Science Science of Synchronicity (ARTSOS) is a documentation of my most recent work toward the correlation of Tzolkin cosmology with the aforementioned scientific disciplines.

My work will also prove the veracity of the Argüellen Tzolkin’s dating. Presently there are various non-corresponding Tzolkin counts in use and there can only be one correct Tzolkin count.The persistence of various counts is a detriment to the integrity and respectability of Mesoamerican calendrics.

There are simpler and faster ways of proving the Tzolkin that do not involve years of tracking to confirm validity. I will share those methods over the course of my treatise on Tzolkin cosmology. [10]

The methodologies for proving the Tzolkin are not a substitute for direct experience, but they do provide the necessary evidence to compel further investigation by those interested in discovering the marvel of an orderly and magical universe.

There are untold benefits to be reaped by knowing in advance the thematic and qualitative content of a given day or other time period and its effects upon us. There are benefits for the individual and the collective. Some of those benefits are listed at the bottom of this article. I am also developing a user friendly and intelligible way of learning the Tzolkin Code– something that does not yet exist. Please see the Synchronicity section to start your own explorations.


The Art and Science of Synchronicity: A New Way to See and Experience the World

It is astounding to witness how every aspect of the day is synchronized according to the Tzolkin Code. The smallest details are not random. It is due to the reasons just mentioned that I am developing my treatise on the Tzolkin as The Art and Science of Synchronicity (ARTSOS).

The Tzolkin Cycle is a scientific discoveryand thus must be articulated in the most universal way possible. And I also believe that the original discoverers be given credit. At this point the archeological record is not certain about which proto-mesoamerican nation was the first to discover it.

We do know that it was the Maya who developed Mesoamerican calendrics to its highest degree. Therefore I have proposed the nameMaya-Meso-American Calendrics (MMAC)to label the body of knowledge pertaining to all aspects of Mesoamerican calendrics.


Introducing Einsteins’s Piper

In order to convey a greater sense of what the Tzolkin means and stands for, I have included the following excerpt from part 5 of ARTSOS entitled: Introducing Einstein’s Piper and The Tzolkin Code Unveiled.


“Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars, human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper”. ~ Albert Einstein

 

260 day tzolkin

The “invisible piper” is what religions and spiritualists call God or one of the many other names meaning more or less the same.

It is what the Greek philosophers meant by the word cosmos meaning order and/or Universe.

In this sense God is an acronym for Galactic Ordering Dynamic.

My study of the Tzolkin Code compels me to claim that the image (Tzolkin Code chart) to your left is the musical score played by “Einstein’s piper.”


Theme 2012: Back to the Future

How may we extract the meaning of 2012 from our knowledge of the Tzolkin?

MMAC calendrics tracks natural cycles that in essence guide the evolution and movement of all things.As discussed, the cycles have themes associated with them.

The themes repeat and they happen at every scale of the energy-matter continuum. For example, cell division is the thematic equivalence of a woman giving birth, a couple separating or a business opening another branch.

Those examples are of acute transitional stages in the process of life’s unfolding and they are characterized by hyper-activity, volatility and distress. There are many other themes, but the theme particular to the present time is crisis.

Crisis implies the search for resolution and relief. Transformation, birth, rebirth, emergence (emergency) intervention, and transition are themes closely related to crisis.


But what is the Planetary Crisis about?

A new culture is struggling to be born. A culture based on values that will carry us forward into a world fraught with increasing challenges. There is however, a great obstacle in the way of this new culture.

That obstacle is the inertia of history, habit, tradition and the leadership agencies who presently direct the future of their respective societies.

The consequences of that inertia are staring us square in the eyes at this very moment as our scientists and awakened citizens sound the alarms of impending natural and social catastrophes if we don’t change our ways.


The Emergence of a New Culture?

#10 emergence 440In its present state I refer to this “new culture”, as aPlanetary Culture in its emergent stage.

Those of us who can identify with socio-economic justice, human rights, peace, ecology, gender balance, non-violence, anti-exploitation, egalitarianism or any cause espousing fairness are to be identified as the leading edge of the emergent culture.

The 6000 year old world of prevailing culture (Western civ.) was built upon the values of a merciless, predatory and patrist ideology.

The only way out from the perennial nightmare of Western culture is a Planetary Culture in accord with the egalitarian principle.

The essential tension and struggle felt on planet Earth is between the inertia of a decaying world order and a desiring to emerge new world order founded on ecological and egalitarian principles.

We can’t have both. It’s either more of the former or growth of the latter. One grows at the expense of the other. The only difference is that we all win if ecology and egalitarianism prevail.


The Galactic Birth Cycle

The first day of the Tzolkin cycle is assigned the attribute of birth. Dec. 22, 2012, hails the day a new Maya precessional cycle begins. The theme of beginnings implies birth or emergence from one stage of being to another. Correspondingly the close of a cycle implies symbolic death.

The theme implied by cycle renewal is birth or rebirth. Rebirth may be understood as the fractal expansion of a system as it grows and develops over time.

According to the MAC system the most notable junctures occur at increments of 260 days or its fractal equivalents—multiples of 260 days.

According the Maya our Sun conjuncts with the galactic center every 26,000 tun.A tun is a 360 day period.26,000 tun equals approximately 25,626.28 years.

Western astronomy offers no consensus on the precessional cycle and one will find a range of 24,000 to 26,000 years for what is commonly known as a Platonic year or the Equinoctial cycle. Wikipedia pegs the precessional cycle at 25,765years.
#11 Crossing the galactic equator 440

We do know for a fact that the sun is traversing the galactic equator at this very moment. Dec. 21, 2012 marks the date on which the sun enters the last 4 years of its 36 year journey across the galactic equator.

The galactic equator is assigned a one degree width and it takes the sun 36 years to enter and exit the one degree wide galactic equator. The Maya depicted Dec. 21, 2012 as the culmination of a “birthing event”. [11]

It is a mytho-symbolic way of describing the astronomical event that would take place at the conclusion of what is known as the Long Count cycle or the cycle of the 5th Sun.It takes 5 Long Count cycles of 5125.26 years or 5200 tun to complete a Maya precessional cycle of 26,000 tun.

260 days is the number of days in a Tzolkin cycle. 260 days is a fractal of 26,000 tun.Much like cell division is a fractal of a woman giving birth.“Coincidentally” the human gestation period is 266 days.

By my optimistic estimation, birth orthe emergence of a Planetary Culture is the theme impliedby the convergence of a renewing 26,000 tun cycle with humanity poised on such a critical and hyper-dynamic stage. Conversely the closing of a cycle implies the demise of the current world order as exemplified by Western culture.

Cell division and human birth are critical and hyper-dynamic states respectively of micro-systems and macro-systems. Humanity as a whole is a mega-system in the grips of some potentially transformative state.

In other words, humanity stands at a crossroads of unprecedented magnitude. We are poised to contend with planetary scaled breakthroughs and breakdowns.

Either we will breakthrough and establish a true global village of increasing universal cooperation or we continue business as usual and continue to see increasing examples of breakdown in the form of social degeneration, widespread warfare and collapsing ecosystems.

mauve ocean sunsetI am not saying that we will transition entirely from one state to another during the next three years. It is a question of turning the tide from one of increasing destruction to one of restoration and real problem solving. The choice is up to us.


References

[1] Harmonic Deconvergence: Origins of Mayan Calendar Confusion and 2012 Mania–Separating Fact from Fantasy

[2] Prophecy Demystified: The Non-Existent “Mayan Prophecies” and the Real Meaning of “Prophecy”

[3] Galactic Alignment 2012

[4] The Archaeological Origins of 2012

[5]John Major Jenkins describes the Tzolkin

[6] The Days and Nights of the Underworlds according to John Calleman

[7] Calleman posits another date for Maya Long Count Cycle closure

[8] Gaia Hypothesis

[9] Table of Nested Numerical Equivalences Across the Entire Energy-Matter Continuum for details

[10] Introducing Einstein’s Piper: The Tzolkin Code Unveiled and how every Event is a Synchronicity SOS pt. 5

[11] John Major Jenkins interprets Tortuguero Monument 6 and Bolon Yokte K’u for it meaning related to Dec. 21, 2012

[12] Who and what is Prevailing Culture

[13] The Tzolkin according to Wikipedia

Universalizing the Tzolkin Code

 

MMAC is the fundamental structure underpinning what we call synchronicities.It is the underlying pattern and framework that Jung spoke of to necessarily exist if synchronicities were to be more than chance coincidence events obeying the “law of large numbers”.

This information is relevant to everyone for the Tzolkin Code reveals the order to the flow and quality of events surrounding the evolution and development of our individual and social lives and of the greater body known as humanity. It would be to everybody’s advantage to be aware of naturally occurring bio-rhythms and cycles having a direct bearing on our experience and appreciation of life.

Understanding, learning and tracking the Tzolkin Code/Cosmocycle will enable the following.

  • A Coherent Worldview (CRC).
  • Develop your intuitive sense.
  • Enhance your appreciation of life.
  • Assess prospective relationships.
  • Understand relationship cosmology.
  • Understand your place in the universe.
  • Understand your fundamental character.
  • Enhance your understanding of how life unfolds.
  • Increase you ability to adapt to changing situations.
  • Increase your awareness of how and when situations develop.
  • Plan events and occasions at the most advantageous and propitious times.
  • Know in advance the thematic and qualitative content of a given period of time.
  • Understand the science of relationships and why some us of get along and other not in the purely “energetic” sense.

Note: By relationships I mean all relationships inclusive of lovers, spouses, friendships, parents, children, siblings, associates, colleagues and coworkers etc.

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Lloydine Arguelles
Apr 16, 2009 1:08

Wow, this is such a clearly laid out presentation of MAC and brings the wisdom of cosmic principles into the light of day. Thank you for being a voice in the wilderness.

Bruce Fenton
Apr 16, 2009 14:56

Interesting project you are running here examining the core of the Meso-American calendar systems. This is pretty well done. Compared to most sites that tackle the calendar system these days I would have to say it is certainly above average. That said I think we all know the average itself is not great. Though I run a 2012 site and deal with calendar related subjects I avoid explaining the full system as quite frankly I am still studying it in my own time and not at a point where I could confidently explain it in depth to others. You are brave I will give you that.

There are some errors and if you do not mind I will just quickly share the ones I spotted, you may decide to dismiss them. The correct term is ‘Maya’ not ‘Mayan’ when talking about the calendar, people or civilisation. Mayan is just the language group.
You mention a galactic alignment between Earth, Sun and Galactic Centre for 21-12-2012 yet myself and several other 2012 researchers have all concluded this is an error and are updating our sites to reflect this. Firstly the correct term is conjunction and it is a vague happening at best. We know that the most excepted theory by scientists and mathematicians is that the sun was most conjunct with Galactic equator during the winter solstice of 1998/99. The area referred to as galactic centre is huge and can’t be considered as a special factor in such conjunctions as this could be said otherwise to occur for hundreds of winter solstice in our era. Even if we take the galactic equator as the important position this to is a problem as we don’t know the Maya ever made such a distinction to that region. As one Maya Anthropologist and Meso-American calendar expert summarised it for me: “The best that we can say is that on 21-12-2012 the winter solstice sun will be conjunct with the edge of one part of the great rift in the approx central region of the Milky Way.”

I also think you will struggle to show that the Maya calendar systems are merely a repackaged version of the Olmec system in the manner you seem to describe. The available evidence shows the Olmec had a far more basic system with the importance put on a 360 day year and a 52 year cycle. I think to say that the Maya just took the calendar system from the Olmec can’t be proved by the evidence available (even if both you and I sense that to be true). On the face of the evidence it is more like a Maya scholar saw an Olmec with a horse and cart and went away and built a Ferrari.

I look forward to your upcoming articles and it is good to see a site that deals more with the actual calendar rather than just 2012 prophecy theories, which are all to common.

By the way I think you misunderstood the three part series I wrote on the 2012 date. I was actually showing how there is in fact no such thing as a Maya doomsday prophecy and no compelling evidence for catastrophe at the end of previous 13 Baktun cycles. The third part was not my opinion on what the Maya predicted for 2012, as you assumed, but rather simply a what might happen around the year 2012 which ‘could possibly’ relate to the calendar finishing. I certainly do not say there is any good evidence (yet) the Maya predicted solar or cosmic storms for 21-12-2012. I do appreciate that is perhaps not at first obvious so feel free to have another read through. Thanks for the analysis though I always love feedback, critical or positive. It is how we all advance!

Kind regards

Bruce Fenton
2012Rising.com

Bruce Fenton
Apr 16, 2009 15:13

I look forward to talking more and wonder if you are on Facebook?

Anyway I have added this Blog page to StumbleUpon to draw more people to your project.

All the best

Bruce

Rohaan
Apr 17, 2009 8:37

@Bruce
Thanks for heads up of the subtle difference between Maya and Mayan when making the distinctions you mention. At this point I’m not sure if I should make the correction due to search engine and search query rankings considerations. 99.9% of the public will use the term Mayan. Any suggestions?

Alignment vs Conjunction
John Major Jenkins does use the term alignment in his work. A dictionary review uses the word alignment to describe conjunction.
What is the difference between alignment and a conjunction from your understanding?

I agree with what you have to say about the aspects concerning the questions of precision involving the “conjunction/alignment” of our solstice sun with the approximate center of the galaxy.

There must be other astronomical features yet to be discovered to help explain the Maya’s astronomical pinpointing of the Dec. 21 date.

Jenkins seem pretty confident with his explanation concerning the “vagueness”of the “conjunction/alignment” I must admit that the astronomical aspects concerning 2012 “conjunction/alignment” is the least investigated portion of my work. I am relying on the current expert (Jenkins) in that dept.—for what I have to say about it.

Regarding your statement about my efforts to show that the “Maya calendar system is merely a repacked version of the Olmec system”

I do not state nor do I imply that anywhere in my report. I simply state that the Olmec civilization predates the Maya and that the archeological record left by the Olmecs indicates they had knowledge of the 260 day Tzolkin the core of MAC calendrics and that they were also tracking the Long Count. Tracking the Long Count implies an equal understanding of cycles at least 5125 years long. We attribute more to the Maya because they left far more record and evidence. My point was not to show that the Maya system was a “repackaged” version of the Olmec system, but to say that the “Maya Calender” is a misnomer. Since it is unclear just who discovered the 260 Tzolkin and who set the Long Count. We only know for sure that the older Olmec civilization did leave a record of their knowledge of the Tzolkin and the Long Count.
Due to the uncertainty of just who discovered “what” and “when” is the reason I suggested the scholarship consider using the term Maya-Mesoamerican-Calendrics (MAC) to add further precision to the study of Mesoamerican calendrics while recognizing the culture most responsible for its continued development and refinement.

And you are right about the last part of your comment. We are both in agreement about the popularized misinformation and sensationalized false prophetic aspects of Maya’s mytho-symbolic lore.

Bruce Fenton
Apr 18, 2009 1:59

I do appreciate what you are saying and I suppose it may be wise to use the term 'Mayan' for full titles and the url's so that search engines can easily find you in relevant searches. I feel the same problem exists for the 'Galactic Alignment'. As I understand the terms this refers to three celestial objects in alignment, whilst Galactic Conjunction is an alignment of two bodies as seen from the Earth. For example when three other planets are in alignment it would not be effected by your location whether you are on the Moon or on the Earth. The three planets would still be aligned. If however the alignment of the Sun and the other object is only happening from the perspective of the Earth it is then a Conjunction. This is the case for 2012 date.

That said most people will search for 'Galactic Alignment'.

Apologies for my thoughts taking some of your writing on the Olmec out of context in regards to my reply. I think that overall it is beneficial to use the term Meso-American calendar system. Although some of the calendars referred to on-line such as the Haab or Venus-Sun calendars do 'seem' to be uniquely Maya . As you rightly clarify it is however difficult to be 100% sure even of these common beliefs.

I think many people suspect the knowledge that the Maya held had existed in even more ancient times than theirs.

I think that now the water of 2012 has begun to settle many will lose interest in it as they realise much of what they thought they knew about it is wrong. It is ironic that the more the answers discount a fixed doomsday prophecy the less interest. So many people are only interested in 2012 due the false data. My concern is that by the time the greaters secrets and truths are freely revealed a lot fewer people will be listening.

I hope that I am wrong.

Thanks for the reply

Bruce

Susan
Apr 27, 2009 6:38

Hi, Rohaan,

I agree with you that there is a lot of misinformation out there about MY2K. But, actually, I think that makes it even more fun – our modern 'myths' will be as important in this as the Maya myths. Fascinating, isn't it?

Rohaan
Apr 28, 2009 2:21

Hello Susan,

I wish I could it view as "fun". I see oceans of confusion. I just put out my first article on mythic deconstruction using the Biblical myth of the Fall of Man. You might have viewed my deconstruction of prophecy which is of course rooted in myth. Ancient symbolism and modern literalism is a volatile concoction and then throw in the 12 blind men feeling out the elephant and you have a full blown circus.

The 12 blind men are the popularizers with no understanding of mytho-symbolism. The elephant is the Mayan calendar and the 2012 event. I don't presume to know how this is all going to shape up, but I can least keep my head above water or so I like to think. The positivist crowd has got it right thematically–a regenerative event. The looming question is one of scale and magnitude.

Cindy
Jan 2, 2010 13:27

This is the first clear understanding I have had of the basis for your theories.

I look forward to further primers. Thanks

Jeanna
Jan 12, 2010 6:56

Thanks for putting this out so clearly. I've read other sites and just got confused. This explains things so well, glad I found you. Looking forward to more.x

Obsidian Eagle
Apr 11, 2010 3:59

Rohaan,

This is a follow-up to our previous conversations and in it I will address not only this article but several other related ones that I have read on your site.

Honestly, I like most of what you’re saying here. I completely agree that there is no need to hype up an ‘end of the world’ since we are already in a state of crisis and that the rest is a sensationalist ruse to distract us from the issues at hand.

However, there is one major matter on which I must diverge: the non-existence of Mayan prophecy. As I have previously related, most ancient Mayan literature was burned by an ignoramus Catholic priest. Nevertheless, the oral tradition carried on in various ancestral dialects continues unimpeded to this very day so can I assure you that the Maya are alive and well, having much to say concerning their own “professions of faith”. For example, the ‘decline’ of city-dwelling Maya and the abandonment of key urban centers has long baffled Western scholars. But you better than anyone should be able to understand that the Maya foresaw the arrival of conquerors and that they voluntarily went into hiding deep in the jungles and high in the mountains of the Yucatan centuries before Europeans arrived. They have remained there in relative seclusion (barring of course, certain public scuffles like the widely publicized Zapatista uprising of the mid-90’s) up to the present.

As I understand it you are familiar with the prophecy of 13 Heavens and Nine Hells but could not track its source. This is a common prophecy known all throughout Latin America even by common folk. In Spanish it is called “The long night of 500 years” because it basically states that our people would be subjugated by foreign invaders for such a span as to atone for the sins of our bloodthirsty forebears. In other words, we have been patiently biding our time and continue to do so until conditions are ripe to reassert our ascendancy as true Toltec descendants. More recently, the Mayan elders have started to come forward to reveal wisdom normally withheld from those who would corrupt or destroy it.

Toltec in Nahuatl basically means “Artisan” and the factuality of their existence as a civilization is also hotly debated within academic circles. Insofar as the Olmecs and the long-count are concerned, a leading scholar says:

“The Long Count calendar used by many subsequent Mesoamerican civilizations, as well as the concept of zero, may have been devised by the Olmecs. Because the six artifacts with the earliest Long Count calendar dates were all discovered outside the immediate Maya homeland, it is likely that this calendar predated the Maya and was possibly the invention of the Olmecs. Indeed, three of these six artifacts were found within the Olmec heartland. But an argument against an Olmec origin is the fact that the Olmec civilization had ended by the 4th century BCE, several centuries before the earliest known Long Count date artifact.” Diehl, Richard (2004). The Olmecs: America’s First Civilization. Ancient peoples and places series.

In either case, it matters not, the Olmecs were obviously “Artisans” of the highest order. I have also noticed that they dwelt not far from the Eastern coast. The elders say that the Toltecs themselves were descended from Atlantis (after all, Atl means “water” in Nahuatl). There are some by the wayside theorists who have put forward that much of the ancient world was populated by a sea-faring people that predates known records but who left behind many stone monuments that accurately marked the equinoxes and solstices. Thus, we Mesoamericans emphatically reject the Bering Strait theory of our origins. Actually, I really think you should take a look at these videos because they raise a lot of interesting questions pertaining to that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU557btZRg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNBA9YEMAg

Basically, what I am getting at, is that nobody is better predisposed to understand or deliberate on the Tzolkin than the people who developed and refined it (heck, this isn’t even the only calendar still being utilized). For all your wisdom my friend (and it is genuine wisdom), I am sad to say that your approach strikes me as typically Eurocentric – divorcing the product from its producers. But if you believe in the Archaic Revival as I do then you should accept that when everything comes around full circle, it is the most primitivistic cultures that will have to be consulted for their timeless insights. When I say that I believe in Quetzalcoatl’s return, that is undoubtedly me professing personal a faith (just as Christians profess faith in Jesus’ return). Although there is one important difference: I do not take that prophecy at its literal, face-value either. The Feathered Serpent of Toltec myth represents (among other things) the union of the primeval reptilian mindset with an ethereal spirituality. We will see this happen within our lifetime and I hope we can work together to spread such awareness.

– ItzQuauhtli, Herald of Quetzalcoatl

Obsidian Eagle
Apr 11, 2010 15:41

Rohaan,

My apologies, I did not mean to come off so pedantic. As in the case of poetry, I am only playing devil's advocate here by letting you know that there is still an active body of Mesoamericans involved with calendrics. Having been acculturated in Latin-America, I can't help thinking that certain aspects of Mayan prophecy are intuitively self-evident and require little in the way of substantive proof. Other than that, I am a beaming fan of your work and am actually very interested in learning more about your discoveries because they definitely do sound groundbreaking. I look forward to the second part of Down the Rabbit Holographic!

– ItzQuauhtli

Rohaan Solare
Apr 11, 2010 18:21

Re: Olmec Culture
Research concurs with what you say about Olmec import to Meso-American culture and calendrics.
I will add that there is no question in my mind about the African origins of Olmec Culture and there is no question about Asian and Polynesian influence in the Americas as well. In Copan, Honduras I noticed that the statues looked exactly like Japanese Samurai—attire and facial features. And the Asiatic features of North, Meso and South Americans is also unmistakable. Genetic tests have confirmed the ethnic origins all Native Americans.

Re: Prophecy
My point regarding prophecy is that we do not have anything in writing to substantiate claims of prophecy. Books have been written about the subject yet there is not a shred of text or glyph inscribed anywhere that we may construe as prophetic text as it relates to 2012 or any other time. Please see Prophecy Demystified: The Non-Existent “Mayan Prophecies”and the Real Meaning of Prophecy” for details. It would be speculation to say what the Maya foresaw. Since we do not have any evidence to that effect.

Maya civilizational collapse was likely brought about the sheer force of self-organizing criticality. All systems are subject to it. And it simply means that any system by virtue of sheer growth will reach points where they become unstable and then must reorganize at either at a more complex scale of organization or at a simpler scale of organization. By many indications it seems that the Maya civilizational model maximized its potential and thus began a period of decline (reorganization) into simplification.

Re: Eurocentric
I am not sure why you say Eurocentric because if you are familiar with my writings you would know that I am quite critical of Euro-American cultural smugness.
I have no doubt that a present day Maya day keeper would be adept at articulating the Tzolkin according to his or her understanding. It would be sheer prejudice to say though that “nobody would be better predisposed to deliberate” on the Tzolkin than a Maya. That is like saying that an American electrical engineer would be better at articulating and understanding electrical theory because Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Edison were Americans.

Re: Product and producer.
To say “product and producers” is to misunderstand what the Tzolkin is. The Tzolkin is not a product (invention), but rather the discovery of a natural phenomena such as electricity. As a natural phenomena the only thing that maybe rightfully claimed is who discovered it and what the discovers had to say about it. But that by no means says that they have the final word.

I consider my work to be groundbreaking and I am only blowing some of the dust off the surface. I will devote my entire life to reveal what I can about the Tzolkin and its implications/applications and I will have only scratched the surface. I have given credit were is credit is due. I refer to their work as the Maya-Meso-American Calendrical System. The Universe is open source is it not?

Rohaan Solare
Apr 11, 2010 23:07

No apologies necessary. I do not mind being critiqued as it helps me sharpen my machete.

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