Legend of 2012
Written by Rohaan Solare on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 14:33 - 6 Comments
Maya Elders and Emergent-Culture.com Agree on Key Tenets of the 2012 – Mayan Calendar Mythos
So what do the present day Maya have to say about 2012? Enclosed are excerpts from an article published in 2003, but it’s being recirculated in light of December 21st, 2012′s proximity. I read it for the first time at the start of this new year. The well known Maya elder and spiritual leader Carlos Barrios is featured in the article.
The article starts out with a defensive posture. That is an understandable position given the fast and loose treatment many authors have given the Maya culture and their misunderstood and misrepresented calendrical science. The Maya’s culture has been vulgarized by those looking to capitalize on their poorly understood, yet sensationalized calendrical system. We’ve all heard the term “Mayan prophecies” yet none exist. The fallacy of the Mayan Prophecies is so pervasive that even Mr. Barrios mentions the phrase without naming a single one.
Mr. Barrios is enthnocentric in his defense by claiming that only the Maya people are capable of understanding Maya calendrics. I have argued that if the Maya did indeed discover something about our natural world then it is a scientific discovery. That would make it a universally valid body of knowledge available to anybody who wishes to investigate it and not the special province of the ethnic group who discovered it.
Mr. Barrios speaks of the many conflicting views and interpretations of the Maya calendrical system that have arisen as the result of careless scholarship. I have acknowledged that situation and I have proposed that if Maya Meso-American calendrical researchers wish to be taken seriously by the world’s intelligentsia then they must work to translate it into an intelligible and testable format. Otherwise it will remain in the realm of the superstitious or worse yet, end up as just another New Age astrological system on par with newspaper horoscope readings.
I am pleased to report that key tenets of my assessment on the 2012 – Maya Calendar (2012-MC) mythos are validated by the two Maya elders referenced in this article. Mr. Barrios mixes tangible present day world scenarios with some of his own mysticism. The excerpts I’ve included are limited to his concrete commentaries on what anybody can self-validate. The entire article may be read here.
My comments are interspersed and in italics among the excerpts. Key words-phrases used by the Maya Elders and also found in my most recent article on the nature of 2012 – MC are in bold.
What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012 by Carlos Barrios
Carlos Barrios is a Mayan priest, historian, anthropologist, researcher, and an expert in the Sacred Maya Calendar. Carlos was born in Guatemala. After studying with traditional elders for 25 years he became a Mayan Ajq’ij, a ceremonial priest, shaman, and spiritual guide and member of the ‘World Council of Mayan Elders.
Carlos initiated an investigation into the different Mayan calendars circulating. Carlos along with his brother Gerardo studied with many teachers and interviewed nearly 600 traditional Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge. Carlos found out quickly there were several conflicting interpretations of Mayan hieroglyphs, petroglyphs, Sacred Books of ‘Chilam Balam’ and various ancient text. Carlos found some strong words for those who may have contributed to the confusion:
Carlos Barrios: “Anthropologists visit the temple sites and read the inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It’s just their imagination. Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed.”
“We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition. As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth Changes.”
He continues: “Humanity will continue, but in a different way. Material structures will change. From this we will have the opportunity to be more human. We are living in the most important era of the Mayan calendars and prophecies. All the prophecies of the world, all the traditions are converging now. There is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era is action.”
Carlos tells us: “The indigenous have the calendars and know how to accurately interpret it — not others. The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars such as the Tzolk’in or Cholq’ij, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years.The date specified in the calendar Winter Solstice in the year 2012 does not mark the end of the world. Many outside people writing about the Mayan calendar sensationalize this date, but they do not know. The ones who know are the indigenous elders who are entrusted with keeping the tradition.
“All was predicted by the mathematical cycles of the Mayan calendars. — It will change –everything will change. Mayan Day-keepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator and the Earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy.”At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world’s spiritual traditions.
Again we have the assertion that “all was predicted yet no specifics” and that “everything will change”. My assessment concurs with the traditional Maya view that cyclical renewal is akin to metaphorical rebirth. His views about the galactic alignment are also in accord with astronomical actualities. Except for the fact that the precessional cycle is actually 25,770.1 years long and if he were holding true to Maya calendrical knowledge then would have used the Maya measure of 26,000 tun cycles or the equivalent of 25,627 years.
If the people of the Earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape without having destroyed too much of the Earth, we will rise to a new, higher level. But to get there we must transform enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way.”
Carlos tells us: “The economy now is a fiction. The first five-year stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992 was the beginning of the destruction of the material world. We have progressed ten years deeper into the transition phase by now, and many of the so-called sources of financial stability are in fact hollow. The banks are weak. This is a delicate moment for them. They could crash globally, if we don’t pay attention. Now, people are paying attention.”
The North and South Poles are both breaking up. The level of the water in the oceans is going to rise. But at the same time land in the ocean, especially near Cuba, is also going to rise. Carlos tells a story about the most recent Mayan New Year ceremonies in Guatemala. He said that one respected Mam elder, who lives all year in a solitary mountain cave, journeyed to Chichicastenango to speak with the people at the ceremony. The elder delivered a simple, direct message. He called for human beings to come together in support of life and light.
“Right now each person and group is going his or her own way. The elder of the mountains said there is hope if the people of the light can come together and unite in some way. We live in a world of polarity — day and night, man and woman, positive and negative. Light and darkness need each other. They are a balance.” “Just now the dark side is very strong, and very clear about what they want. They have their vision and their priorities clearly held, and also their hierarchy. They are working in many ways so that we will be unable to connect with the spiral Fifth World in 2012.”
“On the light side everyone thinks they are the most important, that their own understandings, or their group’s understandings, are the key. There’s a diversity of cultures and opinions, so there is competition, diffusion, and no single focus.” “We need to work together for peace, and balance with the other side. We need to take care of the Earth that feeds and shelters us. We need to put our entire mind and heart into pursuing unity and unity now, to confront the other side and preserve life.”“We are disturbed — we can’t play anymore. Our planet can be renewed or ravaged. Now is the time to awaken and take action. Everyone is needed. You are not here for no reason. Everyone who is here now has an important purpose. This is a hard but a special time. We have the opportunity for growth, but we must be ready for this moment in history.”Carlos says: “The prophesied changes are going to happen, but our attitude and actions determine how harsh or mild they are. We need to act, to make changes, and to elect people to represent us who understand and who will take political action to respect the Earth.” Carlos reminds us this is a crucially important moment for humanity and for Earth. Each person is important. [Read more at Seri Worldwide]
We do indeed need to find the common ground because the many facets of the emergent culture will achieve relatively little in our currently fragmented state.
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Hello Kleomichele, Thank you for the correction and for your generous and kind words ! I have changed the picture. I got it from his website so we know it’s him.
Thanks again !!
Rohaan
Harry Crew
I have read this article many times now in many different places. I believe the words that Carlos Barrios speaks and am excited about this coming year. Join and occupy movement, find a club, work with others, make up with an ex lover/friend. Find ways to re-connect with the Self that lives within you.
“I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides. I honor the place in you, where lies your love, your light, your truth and your beauty. I honor the place in you, where…if you are in that place in you … and I am in that place in me…then there is only one of us” -Leo Buscaglia
Harry, thank you for such beautiful and inspiring words. And your recommendations couldn’t be more appropriate!
Gabriele Rissmeyer
We live in exciting times…Let’s come together in peace and love…I so want to see the world, its people and all of creation experience the world as beautiful and sustaining as it was intended…
Hello Gabriele, We do indeed and that makes two of us. Thank you for helping tilt the scales on favor beauty and justice.
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Anticipating Personal and Collective Shifts in Relation to MMAC Time Science
The word shift is commonly used in reference to the motifs associated with the 2012-“End of the Mayan Calendar” phenomena (2012-MC). The expectations of those most realistically attuned to the mytho-symbolic significances of 2012-MC sense that there are large scale socio-cultural shifts in the works. Emergent-Culture.com is essentially dedicated to the planet wide socio-cultural movement (planetary culture) that I believe lies at the heart of the “co-incidence” between the end of the 5125 year Maya Long Count Cycle and the unprecedented levels of socio-economic turbulence seen all around the world.
The notion of mere “coincidence” is dispelled once one understands what the Ancient Mesoamericans (Maya, Toltecs, Olmecs, etc) discovered about the nature of time and reality. I use the the term Ancient Mesoamericans because precolumbian Mesoamerica was home to upwards of 80 different tribes and most followed the same calendrical system. Additionally the Maya were not the first to use the core of the Mesoamerican calendrical system—-the tzolkin cycle. Although they were the ones who developed Mesoamerican calendrics to its highest degree. I also prefer to use Ancient Mesoamericans because it helps differentiate between present day Mesoamericans and those who lived in Middle America prior to the European invasion.
Since it was the ancient ones who were responsible for the development of Maya-Meso-American Calendrical system. (MMAC)
And What is Time?
In the Western world time is a very muddled concept. Western science is only now beginning to acknowledge that their classical conception of time is ill defined, overcomplicated and just plain wrong. Have a look at Wikipedia’s treatment of time to get a taste of what I mean. Time has been so misunderstood that Western scholars have written entire books about the subject without reaching any kind of conclusion or consensus about what time is.
Those of you familiar with my writings on time and Mesoamerican calendrics (calendar/time science) know that from my vantage point, time is nothing more than movement and that’s how the Ancient MesoAmericans (AMA) saw it as well. Albeit a special kind of movement.Something I call ordered movement. There are various definitions of time and many are useful, but I’m talking about time in the most fundamental of terms. Time is not the fourth dimension as Einstein believed.[…]
[NOTE: The foregoing paragraphs serve as an introduction to a chapter on my developing book on The Legend of 2012. The remaining text below this note is the tail end of the chapter where I show how one may apply MMAC time science to one’s life in order to anticipate significant personal life events, and as a way to self validate what I consider to be the most profound and universally relevant cosmology (worldview) presently available. It is universally relevant because it applies to everyone regardless of whether one believes in it or not. It is universally relevant because it’s a mesocosmically scaled cosmology and that means that you don’t need to understand equations or use special tools to observe and appreciate, e,g. microscope, telescope.
The chapter goes on to develop the idea of time as ordered movement/change and of how the earth’s basic movements translate into the scheduled and sequential movements of all organisms. The mechanism is detailed down to the DNA molecular level in an attempt to show how all of life unfolds to the beat of some cosmic piper. The piper’s “musical score” is intrinsic to the earth’s movements, the workings of DNA code and all human activity in general. I suggest that the Ancient Mesoamericans discerned the cosmic score from their study of astronomical and earthly cycles both overt and subtle. Some cycles are so subtle that no other culture discovered them. The most subtle of these cycles were encoded into their Tzolkin cycle calendar.
I also relate the tzolkin and genetic codes and then show their relationship to the implicate and explicate orders that the Physicist David Bohm describes in his Holomovement cosmology. This article focuses on a particular type of movement we call a shift or transition. These shifts happen at predictable time scales because the growth and development of all organisms happen according to timing constants built into the very fabric of our reality. It seems that the AMA discovered those constants. The following excerpt tells you how to apply those constants.] click here to read entire article
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Dear Rohaan,
Thank you for your wonderful work, intense research and terrific articles. Just a note regarding the Carlos Barrios article – I believe the photo portrays don Alejandro rather than Barrios. To verify you may visit http://www.shiftoftheages.com
Blessings,
Kleomichele Leeds